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  • #3502
     Mr Stone 
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    husDoms (and those of us trying to become such),
    I have had a few questions regarding the use of rope for bondage play with submissives. Disclaimer before I continue–I’ve been doing knot craft for a long time, but have only been doing bondage for about 6 months now. I’m in no way an authority on it, but thoroughly enjoy it as does dominique.

    Firstly, I have a bunch of different types of ropes and cord. The hardware store, is an absolute budget minded treasure chest for most things kinky. You can buy all sorts of types, colors, and lengths (knot to mention a whole new world once the BDSM glasses are firmly in place). One would think living in a province of Japan it would not be difficult to find traditional Japanese bondage rope (made from jute, asanawa) but I have been pretty unsuccessful and ended up ordering this specific kind from a guy who makes his own off of e-bay. There are many many different makers/distributers in the states.

    Besides some of the very general stuff found on either youtube or the internet I have the following books.
    +Two Knotty Boys Showing you the Ropes/Back on the Ropes
    +Complete Shibari 1&2 – Douglas Kent
    +The Beauty of Kinbaku – Master ‘K’

    The first two are definitely more decretive knot focused but functional as well. Complete Shibari by Douglas Kent are also very good, especially if you are interested in the more traditional Japanese style bondage (called Kinbaku or Shibari in Japanese depending on who you talk to). He has a unique setup for his books, which encompasses a crawl-walk-run (then fly) method. The last book by Master K (he also has a website) is more of a history behind this art form as well as a small section of basic ties. Jay Wiseman also has a rope bondage book as well, which I’ve heard is good, I just haven’t read yet.

    e-books are great for this if you have an e-reader on a tablet or on a computer because it negates having to try and prop the book open when your hands are busy tying up your wife/sub/ukai.

    I won’t go into the safety aspects, as we are all responsible adults and the books thoroughly cover it in the beginning.

    If you aren’t sure what style you like try them all out and mix what you do or concentrate on one area. Shibari has a few simple ties that anyone should be able to figure out with a little practice which makes quickly securing someone easy, fun, and highly erotic.

    I also know many sex shops, BDSM clubs, and so forth have workshops on how to do bondage. Just look around and have fun.

    Go get your knotty on,
    Mr. Stone

  • #3507
     Loving Liege 
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    Mr. Stone,

    The local hardware store, Walmart, and all other stores admittedly have a whole new feel…to both of us!

    Thank you for the reference material. The basic shibari stuff is pretty easy to find but I really appreciate the book tips, Amazon here I come!

    You mentioned jute and asanawa as rope types. I’m familiar with jute but knot the other. I’m probably more the silk and softer rope type. Any recommendations or warnings in this front? Diameter?

    Thank you for taking the time to write this knotty subject post.

    LL

    • #3509
       Mr Stone 
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      LL,
      If you are interested in the Complete Shibari, just check out his site:

      I ordered both books and his well as his Better Built Bondage book (I like making stuff with my own hands, it is usually better quality). It came pretty quick.

      Jute and asanawa are the same you will find either or both listed from distributors. I’m not too familiar with doing knots with silk, and I don’t think the shibari ties would necessarily work with that, you might have to just go with the old fashioned square-knot.

      dominique actually loves the feel of the natural fiber rope. It is slightly rough, but it doesn’t burn if you happen to drag it along the skin when you are first learning. A poly blend rope is available at most hardware stores or outdoor rec such as REI (this will burn depending on how fast you pull it over the skin). 7-8mm is a good size, knot too small (more painful and harder to untie) and not too big (knots won’t stay tied as well).

      I’m not finding the guy I ordered my rope from. He is out of TX, and makes it himself. I’ll keep looking and let you know if you are interested.

      -Elliott

  • #3508
     Mr. B 
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    Mr. Stone,

    Thank you for all the knotty info! It looks like I have plenty of reading ahead. As far as e-books go…do you know if any of these books you have mentioned are available or can you recommend one?

    I will be on a mission to learn and get away from truckers knots! Lol!

    Thank you again!

    Take Care!

    Mr. B

    • #3510
       Mr Stone 
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      Mr. B,
      The “Two Knotty Boys” books are available (on Kindle at least). I don’t think the “Complete Shibari,” by Douglas Kent, series is available in e-book, they are soft cover and do bend open and stay with a little effort though. If you like the look of the Japanese I would really recommend the one by Kent. If you are just looking for some fun interesting knots then go with the Two Knotty Boys.

      Have fun,
      Elliott

  • #3564
     Mr. Fox | Founder D/s-M 
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    Mr. Stone,

    Wonderful topic Sir!

    Best wishes,

    Mr. Fox

  • #5347
     Angel 
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    If i may interject. This last weekend I had the pleasure of learning from Takeshi Nagaike and Midori. Both of whom are legends in the world of rope tying. I also got hands on instruction from Kanso and True Blue from Bondage Erotique (website of the same name ). I learned quite a lot from both including where to place the rope on the female form to induce the most pleasure from her. Its was such great time that i would highly recommend taking classes from both groups if they are ever in your area. Bondage erotique has classes every month in san francisco but they also travel the united States so check out their website and see if they are coming to your area. I bought cotton rope from them that leave the most wonderful marks and Jade and just yesterday i bought jute rope off of etsy for incredibly cheap. it needs to be finished but im sure i can figure that out on my own. if you are interested i can give you the name of the guy i bought it from. just let me know.
    anyways, be safe have fun and tie tight!

    • #5350
       Mr Stone 
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      Angel,
      Thanks for the info. Hands on training with an expert is always a great way to learn. Keep in mind, any rope whether you spend a lot or a little on it should be weight tested before doing suspension.

      As far as finishing your jute, I posted some info in another thread titled ‘Rope Starter Kit.’

      Rope Starter Kit

      There are variations out there, but from what I’ve seen they are pretty similar to what I posted there.

      Best Regards,
      Mr Stone

  • #69224
     Lupo 
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    Douglass Kent’s books are awesome and a great resource. Knotty boys are great for some embellishments and decorative ties. I’ve recently started using Bruce Esinem’s Shibari Curriculum online and think I’ve gotten way more out of it than what I paid for.

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